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Take a look at our starting point – in the 34 scripture passages we have reviewed so far– arranged in chronological order. Note the pattern of progression and the development of the Ministry of the Holy spirit.
We Began with ‘In the Beginning… ‘
— The Spirit Present at Creation
Scriptures
Genesis 1:1–2
“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.”
Observation
Before life is created, before mankind exists, before prophecy, leadership, wisdom, or redemption, the Spirit is already present and active.
The Spirit is portrayed as participating in God’s creative activity at the beginning of creation.
Finding
The Spirit’s ministry begins not with humanity, but with creation itself.
Pattern
The first biblical appearance of the Spirit establishes:
Divine presence
Creative activity
Participation in creation
Preparation for life
The Spirit is active before all subsequent manifestations of His ministry.
Observe the Following:
Below, I am providing you with a summary overview of the places in the Hebrew Scriptures where we are shown the Spirit Speaks as God.
1. 2 Samuel 23:2–3
Text
“The Spirit of the LORD spake by me, and his word was in my tongue.
The God of Israel said, the Rock of Israel spake to me…”
Observation
Notice the sequence:
The Spirit of YHVH spoke.
God’s word was spoken.
The God of Israel spoke.
The Rock of Israel spoke.
David moves seamlessly between:
The Spirit speaking
God speaking
Absolutely no distinction is being made between their authority.
Significance (Co-Equality)
One of the clearest Old Testament examples where the speech of the Spirit is identified with the speech and authority of God.
2. 2 Chronicles 24:20
Text
“And the Spirit of God came upon Zechariah…
and said unto them, Thus saith God…”
Observation
The Spirit comes upon Zechariah.
The message that follows is not:
“Thus saith the Spirit”
but:
“Thus saith God.”
Significance (Co-Equality)
The Spirit delivers God’s message with God’s authority.
3. Numbers 24:2–4
Text
“The Spirit of God came upon him.
And he took up his parable, and said…”
Observation
The Spirit comes upon Balaam.
The oracle that follows is treated as a divine revelation from God.
Significance (Co-Equality)
The Spirit becomes the immediate source of the prophetic message. The Word He gives carries the same weight, significance and authority as GOD.
4. Numbers 11:25–29
Text
“the LORD took of the spirit that was upon him, and gave it unto the seventy elders…
and they prophesied…”
Observation
God places His Spirit upon the elders.
The result is prophetic speech.
Significance (Co-Equality)
The prophetic words are understood as God’s words communicated through the Spirit. – Prophetic outcomes ensue.
Pattern
Moses
↓
Spirit shared
↓
Seventy elders
↓
Prophetic ministry
↓
Leadership ministry
This anticipates both Joel 2:28 and 1 Corinthians 12.
5. Nehemiah 9:30
Text
“testifiedst against them by thy spirit in thy prophets”
Observation
God is speaking.
How?
By His Spirit.
Through whom?
His prophets.
Significance (Co-Equality)
This verse explicitly links:
God → Spirit → Prophetic Speech
The outcomes are the same- whether the Word comes directly from GOD or the Holy Spirit- results are the same.
6. Isaiah 48:16
Text
“And now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.”
Observation
YHVH and His Spirit are jointly involved in commissioning the speaker.
Significance (Co-Equality)
The Spirit jointly participates in a divine sending and commissioning function.
7. Ezekiel 11:5
Text
“And the Spirit of the LORD fell upon me, and said unto me, Speak; Thus saith the LORD…”
Observation
The Spirit speaks directly.
The Spirit’s instruction is immediately followed by:
“Thus saith the LORD.”
Significance (Co-Equality)
One of the strongest passages in the Hebrew Scriptures.
The Spirit speaks.
The words spoken are presented as the words of YHVH.
There is no commissioning here by GOD. No joint involvement. The Spirit speaks in His own authority and His Words are immediately obeyed in equal response to GOD’s commands.
8. Ezekiel 2:2–4
Text
“And the spirit entered into me…
and set me upon my feet, that I heard him that spake unto me.”
Observation
The Spirit enters Ezekiel.
The prophetic commission immediately follows.
Significance (Co-Equality)
The Spirit functions as the enabling presence through which God’s message is received and delivered. He has the authority to comiision GOD’s people on His own authority.
Strongest Examples
We’re building a chart specifically entitled:
“The Spirit Speaks as God”
The strongest evidence in scripture to show you so far would be:
Passage
Spirit Speaks
God’s Speech Follows
2 Samuel 23:2–3
Yes
Yes
2 Chronicles 24:20
Yes
Yes
Ezekiel 11:5
Yes
Yes
Nehemiah 9:30
Yes
Yes
Numbers 24:2–4
Yes
Yes
Pattern Observed
GOD co-signs on what His Spirit Speaks.
A recurring Hebrew Scripture pattern emerges:
God Sends or Places His Spirit
↓
The Spirit Comes Upon a Prophet
↓
The Spirit Speaks or Enables Speech
↓
The Message Is Presented as the Direct Words of God
The Hebrew Scriptures consistently portray the Spirit not merely as divine power, but as God’s active speaking presence, delivering God’s own words with God’s own authority.—And the Spirit of GOD must be obeyed in the same way obedience must be given to GOD.
Understanding what is happening on the pages of scripture demands that we connect the dots and observe the patterns.
The LORD wants to give us the meat of His Word.
This is why you have to study the totality of scripture, not just a few passages. GOD’s Spirit acts separately and independently from GOD. They are One in Nature and Separate in Personhood. This message is woven throughout the Biblical Text. – And we’re not done!
The Trinity is a BIG Concept and we have to examine what is happening before our eyes – and not limit GOD to what our mind can only accept or process at a time.
In this series you are going to consistently see GOD, the Spirit and the Son of Man move together as One. Doing exactly as GOD asks them to do and GOD backing their WORDs, their commandments, commissionings, their actions, etc.
In the next post I will show you more.
God Bless You,
1 Corinthians 3:1-3 King James Version
3 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
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Are they able to evaluate Scripture independently?
Are they struggling with specific concepts?
Do they need additional support?
Are they engaging with the biblical evidence?
Are they feeling led toward a specific conclusion or able to see through the layers of obstacles and obstructions and see the patterns of evidence for themselves?
This material provides a thorough review which you can print and work through the information that have been provided in a collective and cohesive fashion. I invite and encourage you to invest the time in this exercise. If you have missed any insights, I trust they will be resolved as you delve into this material which is for the purpose of you gaining on foothold on the biblical basics of the trinity.
Remember, this is not even 1/100th of the evidence for the Trinity in Scripture. It’s a start!
We have only focused on the Holy Spirit, but before we move on to the Son of man- we both need to know how you are doing thus far. This assessment is designed for you to see where you are and report them back to me so, we can navigate the rest of the way without any lack of knowledge blocking our path from this study to this point.
The next three posts will contain, an assessment, a review and course feedback, followed by an Intro to the Son of Man Series.
The LORD wants to give us the meat.
God Bless You,
1 Corinthians 3:1-3 King James Version
3 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
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As this course is under development, I will update and/or revise portions of this series as we move forward in order to respond to questions or comments that come up along the way. I may have responded to any questions that you have on any post in an update. Please check or send me a question or comment. Thank You.
This is a self-paced course. For maximum benefit please take the time to read all the scriptures listed under their various categories to observe and learn the patterns they contain.
Please do not race through.
While this is just the beginning of showing you the Presence and Power of the Holy Spirit in His Triune Nature with GOD. The goal (and my hope) is that this summary will help answer any questions that may still exist about the Holy Spirits function within the trinity, but that it has helped untangle any doubts or threads of misinformation.
You will be presented with a similar series of material on the Son of Man/Son of GOD. Make your foundation strong before moving on.
Take your time. Note the connections between the Hebrew scripture and the New Testament on the Holy Spirit. Ask questions.
Enjoy!
Step 1- Part 0.12
Since the beginning of this study on the trinity, you have been examining multiple texts through the framework or lens of intertextuality, developing a very essential skillset in the study of Biblical texts. This is how we allow scripture to speak for itself, without superimposing our personal ideas, thoughts and self made theologies upon the text.
Scripture will interpret Scripture.
Always look for the Patterns.
Intertextuality (Fr. intertextualité) is not just a literary device but a fundamental way in which the Old and New Testaments communicate meaning. It is the process by which one text “converses” with another, drawing on shared language, themes, and cultural references to convey deeper meaning. (as defined by Dr. Michael Heiser).
Remember to ask yourself: Where have I heard this before?
GOD speaks in patterns. That’s how we get to know His Voice. he has shown us multiple times throughout the pages of scripture that not only does He have a Spirit, and that His Spirit works with Him throughout creation, but that His Spirit, begin of Him, operates with the same level of authority as Him. They are One.
Part 0.12 Updates Are Coming…
Part 0.12of this series will be an ongoing work in progress. As we build upon our knowledge of how the Holy Spirit moves and operates in the earth, I will use Part 0.12 of this series to summarizes the work.
Please check back regularly for updates to this post, as it will undergo many revisions and updates.
How to Read the Bullet Points:
The solid circular bullet point identifies scriptures covered in this series.
The white bullet point provides additional scriptural supports for the attributes of the Holy Spirit or supporting notations of 1st bullet point.
The square bullet point provides supporting notations or co-equality citations.
We Are Building a Case:
Revisiting The Things You Have Heard…
The Personhood of the Holy Spirit
YHVH ELOHIM is a person AND He has a Spirit – which operates separate and apart from Him, fulfilling the Purposes and Plans of GOD. In Scripture, the Holy Spirit shows us in the following descriptions…
John 16:13-15, Ezek 2:2,
The Spirit of Elohim is a Teacher, John 14:26, 16:13, Luke 12:12; Matt 10:20, Mark 13:11
The Spirit of Elohim is an Intercessor for us, Romans 8:26
The Holy Spirit appears as…
Spirit of God (ruach Elohim) — e.g., Genesis 1:2, Job 33:4
Spirit of the Lord (ruach YHWH) — e.g., Isaiah 42:1, Joel 2:28
Holy Spirit (ruach haqodesh) – e.g., Ps 51:11, Isa 63:10-11
You have seen multiple scriptural evidences that the Spirit of GOD (aka ruach elohim, ruach YHVH, ruach kodsho), as spoken of by the Word of GOD is presented with personhood; Hemoves, acts and intervenes on behalf of GOD, speaks on behalf of GOD.
The Name Elohim- ALL BY ITSELF – means MORE than One!
You have seen that ELOHIM is a masculine plural pronoun.The Name by which GOD first introduces Himself to us on the pages of scripture tells us that He is…
ONE — and More Than ONE — at the same time!
The Spirit of Elohim Empowers Us
Ezek 36:27, 37:1, 14, Isa 61:1,
Elohim Speaks of His Spirit with Personal Possession
Isa 30:1, Isa 63:10, Psalm 51:11, 104:30, 139:7, Proverbs 1:23. Job 26:13
Elohim and His Spirit are One; They Work Together
Isa 48:16,
John 14:1,
John 4:24; GOD is Spirit
John 4:24 ESV, NIV, NLT, NKJV, NASB, AMP, ISV
2 Cor 3:17-18, likewise, Jesus and the Spirit are One (I’m jumping ahead). Paul is contrasting the Hebrew Scripture (OT) with the New Testament.
The Spirit of Elohim, He moves on behalf of Elohim
Genesis 1:1-2, Judges 13:25, 2 Chron 18:23,
Gen 1:1 In the beginning Elohim (God)created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Elohimmoved upon the face of the waters.
The Spirit of Elohim, overpowers what is tohu-va-bohu (without form and void); chaos, darkness, confusion must bow.
Without the Spirit of Elohim, confusion, darkness and chaos will emerge.
The Holy Spirit Gives Us Evidence of Elohim
John 15:26
Acts 5:32, 1 Cor 12:3, 1 John 4:2
The ability to bear witness to GOD is evidence that the Holy Spirit abides in you.
The Spirit of GOD, He speaks on behalf of Elohim and must be obeyed.
2 Chronicles 24:20, John 15:26, 16:13-15,
Acts 8:29; 13:2-4
The Spirit of Elohim is co-equalin authority with Elohim.
Lying in the Presence of the Spirit of GOD, is the same as lying to Elohim Himself
Acts 5:3-4
Respect that is due Elohim is expected to be rendered to the Spirit of Elohim; co-equality
The Spirit of Elohim imparts Wisdom, Understanding and Knowledge; being filled with the Spirit of GOD gives us the ability to create…and do Great Works
Ex 31:1-5, Psalm 104:30,
1 Cor 2:12, Judg 14:6, 15:14
The Spirit of Elohim is co-equal with Elohim in the giving of wisdom…
The Spirit of Elohim Gives LIFE! (just like GOD)
Job 27:3, Job 33:4, Ezek 37:14,
Psalm 104:30, Job 34:14-15, John 6:63, 2 Cor 3:6, Titus 3:5,
Through the Power of the Holy Spirit Mary gave birth, Matt 1:18, Luke 1:35
The Spirit of Elohim is co-equal with Elohim in the giving of life.
The Spirit of Elohim is the Spirit of Prophecy; GOD’s Spirit dwelling upon us is the Anointing to Prophecy.
1 Sam 10:10, 10:20, 18:10, 19:20, 19:23, 2 Chron 15:1, Isa 61:1,
Luke 2:26, Acts 11:28, Acts 20:23, 21:4, 11, 1 Tim 4:1, 1 Cor 2:10
Numbers 11:25-26,
The Spirit of Elohim is co-equal with Elohim activating prophetic gifts.
The Spirit of Elohim Dwells Upon a Person Because of the Anointing placed upon them by GOD.
1 Samuel 16:13
The Spirit of Elohim is co-equal with Elohim activating prophetic gifts.
The Spirit of Elohim restrains darkness, comforts, instructs, prevents enemy attacks, provides, guides, deposits insight and wisdom, gave them the pattern for the Tabernacle, i.e., gives us the patterns we need, commissions us for leadership
Gen 1:2, Ex 31:3, Num 24:2, 1 Sam 1:1, 10:7, 10, 19;20, 1 Chron 28:12, Isa 61:11, Dan 5:11, 14, Num 11:16-17, Judges 3:10, 6:34
The Spirit of the YHVH gives us rest.
Isaiah 63:10-14
The Spirit of the Elohim is the Spirit of Truth
John 14:16-17,
The Spirit of Elohim dwells in and with those, that belong to Elohim.
His Spirit, which is Truth, leads you into all truth; 15:26, 16:13
The Spirit of Elohim dwells within believers; John 14:26, 15:26
The Spirit of Truth does not abide in or with lying spirits, John 8:44
A lying spirit can not abide in the Presence of GOD
Jesus and the Spirit of Truth are One
John 14:6, Rom 8:9, 11, 1 Cor 3:16, 12:4-5,
The Spirit of GOD in us creates the desire to walk after Him – After His Spirit and not the flesh.
Rom 8:14, Gal 5:16-25
Walking after the Spirit of GOD is equivalent to Walking after GOD.
The Spirit of Elohim is co-equal with Elohim activating His prophetic gifts.
GOD BLESS,
(1). Do you see the Holy Spirit as the Second Person of the Trinity so far or does His Personhood and CO-Equal Power with GOD remain unclear, unseen and unconnected? (If not, re-read of Step 1- Part 0.03-0.11).
(2). Which 3 scriptures best defines the person and power of the Holy Spirit to you, so far? (Using the framework of scriptures in this post or submit your own scriptures confirming the Trinity)
(3) What is the single most factor or cause- per scripture– that can prevent someone from seeing, understanding, or having the knowledge of the Holy Spirit? (Ref: revisiting multiple post in this series should help you pinpoint scriptural supports for responding to this question, including this post).
If you would like an in-depth response to the statement, “But the word Trinity is not in the Scripture?” Go to Step 1-Part 003, scroll down toward the end of the article and and read my full response to this statement from the perspective of language and early church history. Amen.
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1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So Godcreated man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
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PART 5: This is a Teaching Exercise and not a Quiz
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Continuing to Reason Together, Our Emphasis Remains on the Spirit of GOD.
REMINDER ANNOUNCEMENT:
There are a few basic questions that are essential for you to ask when studying a passage of scripture. They will prove themselves vital in your ability to rightly divide the Word of Truth.
Always ask yourself…
(1) Who is speaking?
(2) Who are they speaking to?
(3) Who or What are they speaking about?
(4) Who else (If anyone) is a party to the conversation, discussion, admonition, instructions, etc? Focus on the context.
(5) Does the statement make sense ‘collectively’? e.g., “and the Spirit of GOD hovered over the face of the waters.”
Are there any questions that should be asked here? Does anything stand out? Am I reading that as if I have complete understanding? Am I assuming I have complete understanding?
Is this poetry or prose? What exactly is meant by “hovered?” Is scripture just saying the Spirit of GOD loomed over the waters? Why is GOD suddenly introducing a Spirit? His Spirit? Why is He saying it that way?
If GOD had said, “…and I hovered over the face of the waters”, that would be expected, right? Being that He created the heavens and the earth, it just stands to reason that He hovered over the face of the waters, right?
Why is He talking as if His Spirit is separate from Him? Why is He deliberately and intentionally expressing Himself that way? Do I keep reading and act like I understand? assume I understand?
The study of Torah is about asking questions. The study of the Bible is not necessarily about asking questions. It depends on who you’re studying with and how you study. Typically speaking, a good amount of Christians, along with our loyal opposition read the bible as if they are reading a bible story.
I say that knowing completely, that this is how we are all brought up reading the scriptures… like a bible story. As if we are just reading a newspaper, or some ancient document that no longer applies to us. Hence, “Old Testament.” Which is another reason, I have observed, that we blackout on it’s message. Causing all the wisdom in it, to zip right over our heads.
For Christians reading this series, everything you want to know about GOD and Holiness, His Kingdom and how to operate in it, is in this Bible. While GOD does not author confusion, our approach to the knowledge of GOD can definitely cause confusion.
Which is why Torah study is predicated upon asking questions.
Asking GOOD QUESTIONS. The kind of questions that reflect an objective to understand the author’s intent of the the message. When we understand the author’s intent, we understand the prophetic agenda; and vice versa…
When we know the prophetic agenda, then we know the authors intent.
(6) What is the Authors Intent? What is the Prophetic Agenda of the Passage?, the Book?, the Chapter? etc.
The above is a list of some of the basic questions that you need to ask yourself every time you pick up a bible to study.
Answering these 5 basic questions every time, will help guide you in your ability to rightly divide the Word of GOD.
ARE YOU READY TO ASK A FEW GOOD QUESTIONS?
Take a look at these five scriptures from the Book of Ezekiel.
I’ve added a few bold highlights and indentations to help guide your focus on the passages of scripture below. Using the initial investigative questions listed above, make an analysis of the passages.
What information is revealed within each verse?
What pattern and/or message is revealed?
Is GOD referring to His Spirit separate from Himself?
Is GOD indicating that His Spirit has the ability to operate separate from Himself?
Is GOD speaking of His Spirit having a separate assignment?
And shall put MySpirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.
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OUR PRIMARY FOCUS IN THIS SESSION WILL BE ON VERSE 1and 2
For a better look at the Interlinear PASSAGE FOR GENESIS 1:2 Click Here
Ruach= Spirit, Wind, Breath
roo-ahk
*ruach is in the common singular construct.Do not think of as you have to choose one meaning over the other- that’s the Western mindset. Now you must put on your Hebrew Mindsetand not override what the Hebrew is teaching us.Ruach consists of all three meanings at the same time; it means spirit, wind and breath -all in one thought!
ELOHIM = Supreme One, Mighty One
el-low-heem
*elohim is in the masculine plural form.Elohim is not only used for GOD, but on occasion it is used in scripture in reference to human rulers, angels, or judges.
el-low-heem appears 2, 598 times in scripture.
The primary emphasis is on power and might. GOD is the Most High Elohim. Not all Elohim are equal. Scripture also applies the title to “little gods” as elohim (lower case E). Just as we recognize GOD spelled with a capital G, (as a Proper Noun), there are also little ‘gods’ that we express and recognize with a lower case ‘g.’
As you can see, Elohim is a BIG WORD.
More on this later.
RUACH ELOHIM
ruach el-o-heem
Both words are proper nouns. Proper Nouns identify a person, place or thing. Genesis 1:2 does not identify the Spirit as a proper noun in the masculine tense in this verse. Yet, we have it on good authority that GOD, Elohim is masculine and describes Himself grammatically with proper nouns. (Genesis 1:1 and 2 both introduce Elohim on the pages of scripture in the masculine plural form.
* Since scripture is clearly indicating that the “Spirit” belongs to GOD, (masculine plural) –making no assumptions and doubting nothing, we can safely say that, the Spirit of GOD is being spoken of grammatically as a proper noun and not a place or a thing… and not an entity.
Important Note: There is no place in the biblical canon where Elohim is not expressed in the masculine plural form, in reference to GOD.
Elohim is plural. The ending ‘im‘ (pronounced ‘EEM’) places the word “GOD” in the plural form, meaning more than one.
All I want you to consider right now is that, GOD knows plural from singular. He knows how to express His Name in singular or in plural. He expresses His Name in the plural form. He could have given His name and identity as eh-loh-ah – but He did not, deliberately. This is His language and at the opening of His Story, His very first message to mankind, He presents to us His Identity in pluralistic form.
GOD’s Oneness is much bigger and more consequential than the literal sense alone can convey.
Sit with this for awhile.
When GOD gives You His Name, the Oneness of Elohim could only be expressed in the pluralistic form.
He is One and More Than One at the same time!
And that’s just the beginning!
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We Are Building a Case:
So far we have established the following…
By examining only two passages of scripture (Genesis 1:1-2) and following the pattern in scripture; In this lesson, we discovered 17 additional appearances of Spirit of GOD, through use of the Interlinear.
Spirit of God (ruach Elohim) — e.g., Genesis 1:2, Job 33:4
Beyond the references to the Spirit of GOD (aka ruach elohim, ruach YHVH, ruach kodsho), one of the primary purposes of this lesson is to provide insight into the number of times the Spirit of GOD is mentioned in the Hebrew Scriptures and what He does for us, for mankind.
In general, the Spirit of GOD is referred to a minimum of 94 times on the pages of scripture. The more we pay attention to His functions, roles and responsibilities in the Kingdom of Heaven, the more we will begin to see the Triune nature of how GOD and His Holy Spirit operate. We will be able to see their unity from which they both minister to us.
By doing this, you will also begin to see how easily we read past every mention of the Holy Spirit and read in to the verse our own preconceived notions, ignoring Him and inserting “GOD” instead, like we’re just reading another name for GOD. This is a very fine line to address. So let’s go back and read Genesis 1:1-2 again, which illustrates this point from the beginning.
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
If we read this and tell ourselves that GOD just changed His name in the middle of 2 verses, then we are just doing ourselves an injustice. And as you may come to see later in this course, we can inhibit our own ability to operate in the spiritual realm because we don’t even understand the person and power of the Holy Spirit.
How can we operate in His Power and receive it in it’s fullness when we do not even understand who He is? If we do not understand the value of what GOD is giving to us, we either just dismiss it as irrelevant or sit it on a shelf and say “Glory, Halleluyah” and walk around powerless, without wisdom, knowledge, understanding, power, and cutting off the counsel of GOD.
You can’t have a relationship with someone who treats you like you do not exist. GOD wants a full relationship. We have to treat Him like He exist. This can only happen when we begin by receiving what He is saying to us, as opposed to dismissing it. Just like we do not care for our thoughts, ideas or words being dismissed, how much more should we reverence (respect, honor, pay attention to) the Words of GOD?
Continuing in the Context…
I am going to continue to add scriptural proofs as we go. More than likely we will cover over all 94 appearances of the Holy Spirit in the Hebrew Scriptures, or come very close to it. At that point, you will have to decide if you are reading your own biases and presuppositions into the text (eisegesis) or allowing the scripture to tell you who the Holy Spirit is (exegesis).
eisegesis (eye-suh-gee-sis)
exegesis (ex-suh-gee-sis)
So the question becomes, if GOD tells you 94 times who His Spirit is and what He is sent to do for you, will you listen? Will you hear Him?
If GOD demonstrates MULTIPLE-MULTIPLE-MULTIPLE times His Triune nature on the pages of scripture, without using the word ‘trinity’ (which wasn’t even in existence at the time scripture was written- It’s an English word and concept, not Hebrew or Hebraic), because He shows you who He is, without labels. Will you believe Him?
But the word TRINITY is not in the Scripture?
(For those who would argue the point with you that the word ‘trinity’ does not exist on the pages of scripture, I would only say to them, “Why would it be?”
The Testimony of Latin, French and English
‘Trinity‘ is a 13th century word which derives from Old French trinite “the Holy Trinity” (11c.), from Late Latin trinitatem (nominative trinitas) “Trinity, triad” (Tertullian), from Latin trinus “threefold, triple,” from plural of trini “three at a time, threefold,” related to tres (neuter tria) “three”. It expresses, “the meaning or state of having three parts, the concept of threeness” which is from late 14c., also “three parts, a triad.”
Note: Why is anyone expecting a 11th or 14th century word to be found in a Hebrew source document, written between the 15th to the 13th century BCE, in the Paleo‑Hebrew alphabet, also known as Proto‑Hebrew or Old Hebrew script.
Latin is only 2,700 years old. French is approx. 1180 to 1400 years old. The English language is roughly 1500 years old. These languages, from which the word trinity emerges, are linguistically, brand new! Hebrew predates the entirety of these languages, which means none of our concepts or terminology, such as the ‘trinity’ even existed at the time. It’s not going to be in a Hebrew document over 3,000 years ago.
This is a baseless and frivolous argument in my opinion. It makes no sense and is only intended to provoke Christians to attempt to reason with an ill-conceived premise, as if it contained some form of validity. It does not. Its just an age old tactic of avoidance and dismissal.
The Trinity is not some Fly-By-Night Religious Theory.
Brief Overview of Church History
The realization that GOD possesses a triune nature was not ‘invented‘ in the 19th or 20th century. Nor the 18th or 17th century, etc. The Early Church Fathers recognized the triune nature of GOD and taught so, far before the Council of Nicea was ever convened in 325 AD, to refute the same Arian heresies that are continuing today! (Details arriving soon in Part 2 – Post 0.1).
Before the concept of Christianity ever appeared on the scene the greatest Rabbi’s and Hebrew Scholars and Sages of all time, recognized the triune nature of GOD. The recognition of what GOD was revealing about Himself is not new and most certainly did not begin with Christianity.
In all honesty, we just recognized it too! You could say, we provided confirmation of what scripture was saying centuries before Jesus ever came to make it plain. The Christians finally caught up to what the Rabbi’s had already recognized, discussed, examined and taught. It’s literally on the pages of scripture. You have to choose to avoid seeing it.
To claim that the trinity can only be valid if the Bible explicitly uses the word ‘trinity’ is the same as going back to the Garden of Eden and listening to a voice that is outside the voice of GOD. It’s the same exact scenario. Reading the Bible as GOD’s voice, listening to His Words and then allowing some stranger you have never seen before, or someone you think you know, create doubt in your mind; tell you what they think they heard Him say or what He meant, and convince you that their words carry more weight than His.
We can believe GOD, or believe the intruder in the Garden. It’s a choice. Notice, I am not asking you to believe me. My goal is to show you all the patterns and connections in scripture in order for you to see for yourself. Hopefully to prevent, anyone from being talked out of their destiny, calling and relationship with the Most-High by a smooth talker, who wields their zealous nature in twisting 2-3 scriptures and offering them as evidence of truth. as a means to talk you out of the promise.
You need to be more studied than the serpents that are laying in wait.
Sunsets don’t literally spell out the words, ‘beautiful, awe-inspiring, or simply gorgeous’– either. The sunset has it’s language that predates our own ability to put the right words together that are able to convey the splendor and majesty that we are in the process of beholding. You just see it.
What we know is that we are astounded by what we see… and words could never capture the depth and truth of what a sunset has to say. So, all we can say is that they are simply beautiful. And those words didn’t exist either. So we did what we do. We developed the best language we could, to give praise to what we were able to behold.
I grant you that there are some people who completely miss the language of a sunset. They may just be distant relatives of those who are not able behold the trinity, either.
The Word Trinity is not in the Bible.
The Concept of the Trinity is in the Bible.
We have this confidence. Moses, saw Father, Son and Holy Spirit working together, understood what was happening and wrote about it. The Prophets of GOD saw, understood and recognized what was happening and wrote about it. The Apostles recognized the triune nature of GOD and spoke, wrote and taught about it. The Early Church Fathers recognized the Triune Nature of GOD and published official decrees, policies, rules and directives to support, mandate and enforce understanding. (To be fair, they were probably exhausted with those who refused instruction).
Although, there are some things in life, such as the ability to perceive a thing, perceive truth, which are called ‘gifts‘. Everybody does not possess the ability to see beneath the surface, or what’s right in front of them, nor can they see what’s into the distance. These are gifts of perception (1 Corinthians 12).
At some point you will make peace with the fact that everyone will not see what you see, hear what you hear or understand. Jesus taught about this, e.g., Matt 13:13. GOD has tried to convey concepts and teachings also, to no avail. Which is why we should not get lured into to banned battles or baseless arguments). So don’t be dismayed. Truth takes time.
This is why we allow the scriptures to do all the talking – and for that to happen, we have to read. We have to read a lot! Amen.
The word TRINITY does not have to be in scripture. But, we on the other hand, need to be in scripture before there is even a possibility for us to see the Trinity. GOD is not telling you He has a triune nature in Latin, Greek, English. He is showing you through His Divine Being, language, actions, directives and behaviors. When the GODHead is showing us who He is.Believe Him.
See you on the pages of scripture! Amen.
Why am I going to such great lengths to explain this or provide so much detail? Because many people from all over the world are opening up these pages and I have no idea what they know, how much they know or where we need to begin. With that in mind, I want to provide enough basic information for you to peel back the layers of this onion for anyone that inquires of you. So you can untangle layers of doctrinal error and pull their knowledge level up from where ever they are. Amen.
Just a few thoughts to consider as we continue through this course.
Additional Scriptural Proofs of His Character and Nature:
Spirit of the Lord (ruach YHWH) — e.g., Isaiah 42:1, Joel 2:28
Holy Spirit (ruach haqodesh) – e.g., Ps 51:11, Isa 63:10-11
YHVH ELOHIM is a person AND He has a Spirit – which operates separate and apart from Him, fulfilling the Purposes and Plans of GOD.
We have cited 17 (minimum) passages of scripture so far that identify the Spirit of GOD as a person, executing assignments as given by GOD. (Ref Part 0.02)
ELOHIM is One and More Than One at the same time!
ELOHIM is always expressed in the Masculine Plural form. This statement can be verified by using the interlinear for all 16 passages of scripture cited in Part 0.2 and 2, 570+ verses of scripture in which Elohim appears.
Elohim is always in the masculine plural form – This statement can be verified by using the interlinear for all 16 passages of scripture cited in Part 0.2 and 2, 570+ verses of scripture in which Elohim appears.
GOD and HIS Spirit BOTH Speak. (And GOD Said…)
The LORD GOD, YHVH ELOHIM and the Spirit of GOD both speak. (in only 18 passages of scripture so far, we have demonstrated this definitively in Ex 31:1, 2 Chronicles 24:20) – As the pinnacle of GOD’s creation, only mankind – created in His image and likeness -also speaks.
The Spirit of GOD Gives LIFE! (just like GOD)
Job 27:3
Job 33:4
The Spirit of GOD is the Spirit of Prophecy
1 Sam 10:10, 10:20, 18:10, 19:20, 19:23, Isa 61:1,
The Spirit of GOD Dwells Upon a Person Because of the Anointing given to them by GOD.
1 Samuel 16:13 (previous typo corrected)
The Spirit of GOD restrains darkness, comforts, instructs, prevents enemy attacks, provides, guides, deposits insight and wisdom, gave them the pattern for the Tabernacle, i.e., gives us the patterns we need, commissions us for leadership
Gen 1:2, Ex 31:3, Num 24:2, 1 Sam 1:1, 10:7, 10, 19;20, 1 Chron 28:12, Isa 61:11, Dan 5:11, 14, Num 11:16-17, Judges 3:10, 6:34
The Spirit of the LORD gives us rest. (Thank You Jesus)
Isaiah 63:11-14, 10
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1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So Godcreated man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
That was simple right? Be certain that you took every step. This will ensure that as we build there will be no gaps in understanding!
This is a very big question. A huge majority of people ask the question but they do not possess the patience to seek out the answer thoroughly. But BIG questions take time. So we have to make time.
Notice that, this post is being identified as Part 0.1 in order to convey the multifaceted layers required for this investigation. Consider this the first brick or stone that we are laying for the foundation. This is important.
If you are not gaining much from jumping around the pages of scripture and find it more confusing than enlightening, consider this the first stepping stone to obtaining a thorough understanding of the Trinity in Scripture.
While BIG questions take time to study, they also require a great deal of time and energy to answer in detail- particularly the way in which I map them out.
I can help you answer these questions, but in order to do that, I am going to require something from you!
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If you’re truly interested…
I prefer to walk through this material in an interactive way. I find it best. However, in order to do that, I need to hear from you in order to gage the best way to communicate this material over the internet via this website.
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GOD BLESS,
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We are accountable before GOD as Watchman on the Walls, Leaders and Teachers to teach right things, and to do everything we can to educate GOD’s People so they are equipped to behave themselves wisely.
Don’t be afraid to stand up for the WORD of GOD. Be afraid not to.
Let’s Begin This Review With The Most Important Question First!
What Did You Learn From This Exercise?
Their is always something to learn from opposing viewpoints.
Allow the opposition (if that is what they are…) to cover their points. Some people are long winded so this requires patience. You have to develop patience. Here is the strategy when you’re a person of little patience…
(1) Consider the conversation practice for a future debate. Don’t listen as a critic or a judge. Don’t listen in order to leap at the first opportunity to disagree. Just Breathe and Listen.
If you are speaking with (listening to) someone who is very close – this is an opportunity to practice self discipline. Family, friends and your loyal opposition, can be the most difficult to engage with, especially when you are on opposites sides of a conversation. They know you and that’s valuable information they can utilize. So, know yourself, and stay calm.
Family and friends can help you recognize your triggers. That’s extremely useful- although annoying. Let them reveal as many as they can! Be a student, not an adversary and learn. If nothing else, learn how they see you as a conversationalist. There’s always something to learn.
This can be the hardest part of the conversation. I understand that. However… this is about practicing self-discipline. So just listen.
(2) TAKE NOTES: Note the time they begin speaking and make a brief outline of the points they are making – Whether you agree with them or not- is not the point. Taking notes helps you stay focused on their conversation, as well as allowing you a visual on the way in which they order their thoughts.
Consider it a mission of reconnaissance. Let them lay out/map out the territory for you. If you are in an impromptu conversation in which you discover you are at opposite ends of the spectrum – be patient and let them map out the territory for you. (a) Do they know where they are going in this conversation? (b) What points do they value? (c) What points are they constantly revisiting? (d) What’s the agenda of this conversation? (e) What is it that they want to persuade you on? (f) Regardless of what they are saying, what is it they believe? Are you able to tell? (g) How many walls or booby traps did they set up? (h) Is this a hunting expedition? Is your opponent attempting to extract more information from you than they are willing to give? (i) What is their real agenda?
This is a debate, right? Remember, you have to be wise as the serpent. People instinctively desire to be clever. It’s a victory for them to attempt to either, charm you, out-smart you, impress you, silence you, manipulate, overpower you, control you, dominate you, etc. Some people just want to win. Others, desire to replace your thoughts, beliefs and convictions with their own. There is always an agenda. No matter how circuitous the conversation becomes, look for signs of the agenda.
As People of GOD, be aware of all of the above (at minimum) and locate the source of pain, brokenness, disappointment, insecurity or the facade. (That’s why you are allowing them the time to map it out for you). People just seem OK and appear as if everything is altogether lovely. Don’t just listen to the words heard on the surface, nor focus solely on the picture they are painting with their words. Contentions with the WORD of GOD, are signals that there is more going on beneath the surface than most people want you to realize. Listen more than you speak.
Make an Assessment: What are you really dealing with? Ego, arrogance, envy, jealousy, strife, self-aggrandizement? Modesty, humility, grace, genuine interest, questions or concern?
(3) Let them speak for at least 5 minutes (maximum) or at least until you have 5-10 points. Here’s the reason for that investment:
Now they owe you the same time and courtesy. You have the right to hold them to it. You got your practice in- You held your peace, you took good notes, you know what you need to address and you earned the right to go about it as you see fit.
Announce how many points you need to address based upon what they stated. Announce where you will begin. Be clear that you will need time to address each point they have made before you have offered a complete response. Ex: “In the 5 minutes you were speaking, I’ve noted 5 primary points that I would like time to respond to. I have them here as…”
Don’t allow interruptions. Respond fully. If interrupted, pause and wait for them to stop talking. Don’t get into a battle or back to back exchange of “You interrupted me.” If politely requesting adequate time to respond is not honored, opt to exit the conversation until such a time as you can be given time to speak and respond to all of their statements, questions or challenges. This is placing a demand on them to operate with polite and professional speaking etiquette.
You are not just placing a demand on them, but you are placing a demand on yourself for the same and exercising self-discipline. Usually at this time, the other speaker may be silent. Use the time to make note of your responses- on the note pad. Don’t offer any verbal continuance of the conversation until they verbally concede to respect your time to respond.
If you are dealing with an undisciplined speaker, you will need to repeat this behavior until you can have a polite conversational exchange of thoughts, ideas and/or scriptural proofs. This is the hard part.
If you are unable to control yourself, just stop the conversation. Figure out what went wrong on your behalf. Don’t finger point. Self-assessment, self-examination is in order here. This is the hard part.
It get’s better with practice!
In the future when I send you other videos to watch and evaluate, make note of the words and behaviors that you find ‘triggering or distasteful.’ How would you handle them in real life? Practice the good behaviors that you desire.
NOTE: I have a lot of things that I do not like to occur in a debate. I wrestle with my own flesh on what they are and struggle to improve myself. We all have to. The lesson here is in how well we can actually ‘die to self’. This is where we take the concept and idea of “dying to self” and actually have to put it in to application. The good news is that you have an opportunity to make a self-assessment of how good you are at it, in the performance of thelittle things.
When you die to self– you give them the opportunity to “hear themselves“
You may be judged, criticized, blamed, or talked about behind your back – So What! Your opponent needs you to be the bad guy, so they can see themselves as the more virtuous. Several of them need this to be the case. Why? Because they need or are prone to gossip, gain-saying, etc. Some people need to be right about something, and they need it badly. If the only voice they want to hear is their own – on any given subject matter. Let them have the win. I could be all they have wrapped up in their self-esteem. Is that the situation?
Keeping ‘self’ out of the conversation is one of the best things you can do as a Christian. It’s the most instructive and the most effective in releasing the Power of GOD over the situation.
As a Christian, if you really want the WORD of GOD and the Power of GOD released over the situation, “Die to Self.” How bad do you want it?
If the conversation devolves into a confrontational debate– that’s where we have failed as Christians. You have the option, opportunity and responsibility to control how you respond and conduct yourself.
If the person you are speaking with is behaving in a way that clearly signals they have no intention of allowing you to respond… That alone speaks volumes without you saying another word, and they will hear that loud and clear all on their own!
Sun Zsu Amendment: Know the enemy and Know yourself (and Control Yourself) and in every battle you will be Undefeated!
Every observation provides valuable insights. Hear what the person is saying… listen to their words… and their body language –and listen fully to both.
Collective Student Responses
Here’s what I want you to take away most from this exercise: Always be prepared to defend the faith against “All enemies… foreign or domestic.Not with physical weapons, but with wisdom.“
But then you might ask, “What about defending the faith? Just let them have the last word? Let them have the last word and the wrong thinking about what scripture is saying?
This is where your life of prayer, discernment and perception has to come in to the argument at hand…
What is the weightier matter at hand? Is it the original question that was on the table? Or are you really addressing some need to care for some form of damage to their soul?
Rule of Thumb: We don’t fight banned battles but we do stand and deliver the most essential message they need to know- at that time.
As His Ambassador, you decide what that will be.
Disclosure: When I say ‘Fast’ I mean being mindful of your health needs when you fast.
1 Timothy 5:1-4 King James Version
1 Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;
2 The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity.
3 Honour widows that are widows indeed.
Fast and Pray for the discernment to know the difference.
Matthew 7:12King James Version
12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Romans 12:10King James Version
10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;
Philippians 2:3 King James Version
3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.
1 Peter 2 King James Version
2 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,
2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.
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And it fell on a day, that Elisha passed to Shunem, where was a great woman; and she constrained him to eat bread. And so it was, that as oft as he passed by, he turned in thither to eat bread.
Welcome to the Month of Adar! It’s that special season the LORD GOD of Heaven has scheduled on His Biblical Calendar to spend with You!
The last month on the Biblical Calendar – Adar is Your Divine Appointment GOD has scheduled for you. This is His Prophetic Season of Divine Reversal, Joy, a Season of Rest from our enemies arranged for His People.
All You Need to Do is Proclaim it! You are here today to enter into His Presence, and He is Faithful! Amen.
Jesus, for all those reading this today, new to the knowledge of your Biblical “Spiritual” Calendar and Your Prophetic Seasons, Divine Appointments and All the Myriad of Blessings and Favor that Fall in this Season of Divine Providence…
We pray today, as Your People dwell in Your Presence, we each receive a special impartation of just how important we are to You, and a desire to know more about the plans You made to give us refuge from the World’s System (the mundane and common) as we walk into and forever toward You, and Your Supernatural Seasons of Destiny.
Today, we enter in to the Calendar of GOD, Your Supernatural Segments of Time, Your Divine Appointments, Time You have Separated just for Us! Thank You LORD.
Let it be today! Let us all rejoice, Let us all have one testimony in common… That It Fell On A Day, when we gathered together, constrained the anointing over this place, and shared a little bread with You!
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THE LORD LOVES A GOOD DISCUSSION! Proverbs 2 (ALL)